1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:02,500 On this episode of Ghost Hunters, 2 00:00:02,500 --> 00:00:05,580 Taps travels to Philadelphia to investigate the ghosts 3 00:00:05,580 --> 00:00:08,040 of the American Revolution. 4 00:00:08,040 --> 00:00:10,400 This fort was used to hold off the British, 5 00:00:10,400 --> 00:00:12,640 so George Washington could make the Valley Forge. 6 00:00:12,640 --> 00:00:15,640 So this pretty much decided the fate of the United States. 7 00:00:15,640 --> 00:00:19,280 At Fort Mifflin, with the secrets of its screaming lady. 8 00:00:19,280 --> 00:00:21,760 Dude, did I swear to God I thought I'd just heard mommy? 9 00:00:21,760 --> 00:00:22,640 What? 10 00:00:22,640 --> 00:00:25,920 And when workers uncover a 200-year-old jail cell, 11 00:00:25,920 --> 00:00:28,560 Taps gets the first crack at its spirits. 12 00:00:28,560 --> 00:00:30,200 Oh, my God. 13 00:00:30,200 --> 00:00:32,320 Dude, something just moved down this way. 14 00:00:32,320 --> 00:00:33,320 What? 15 00:00:33,320 --> 00:00:34,320 Oh, it's creaking. 16 00:00:34,320 --> 00:00:37,240 Oh, I can't do it. 17 00:00:37,240 --> 00:00:40,960 Although the body of an escaped prisoner may be long gone, 18 00:00:40,960 --> 00:00:42,720 has Grant seen his soul? 19 00:00:42,720 --> 00:00:44,000 Oh, my God. 20 00:00:44,000 --> 00:00:45,880 Film in this room, right here. 21 00:00:45,880 --> 00:00:48,480 Oh, my God, I'll crab my pants. 22 00:00:48,480 --> 00:00:49,480 Oh, my God. 23 00:00:49,480 --> 00:01:02,680 Hey, guys, we got something special for the next case. 24 00:01:02,680 --> 00:01:04,160 It's Fort Mifflin, Philadelphia. 25 00:01:04,160 --> 00:01:05,920 Steve, we've heard about this place forever. 26 00:01:05,920 --> 00:01:07,800 A lot of investigators want to get in there, 27 00:01:07,800 --> 00:01:09,400 and we have free run of the place. 28 00:01:09,400 --> 00:01:11,600 Because this fort was the fort actually used 29 00:01:11,600 --> 00:01:13,800 to hold off the British, so George Washington 30 00:01:13,800 --> 00:01:14,960 could make the Valley Forge. 31 00:01:14,960 --> 00:01:18,120 So this pretty much decided the fate of the United States. 32 00:01:18,120 --> 00:01:18,840 Wow. 33 00:01:18,920 --> 00:01:20,680 It's been in the Revolutionary and Civil Wars, 34 00:01:20,680 --> 00:01:23,560 and it's been pretty much in use until 1960. 35 00:01:23,560 --> 00:01:25,320 Even through our email data bank, 36 00:01:25,320 --> 00:01:28,000 there have been people asking us to investigate this place 37 00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:28,920 for quite some time. 38 00:01:28,920 --> 00:01:31,440 Now, there's claims of all different kinds of activity. 39 00:01:31,440 --> 00:01:33,280 People see full body apparitions, 40 00:01:33,280 --> 00:01:35,080 sounds of a lady screaming. 41 00:01:35,080 --> 00:01:36,760 One of the best parts is they were mowing the lawn, 42 00:01:36,760 --> 00:01:37,920 and they found a sinkhole. 43 00:01:37,920 --> 00:01:39,560 So they started excavating it. 44 00:01:39,560 --> 00:01:42,040 When you find out, it's this old, underground, 45 00:01:42,040 --> 00:01:43,640 solitary confinement unit. 46 00:01:43,640 --> 00:01:45,400 Not only employees, but the patrons, too, 47 00:01:45,400 --> 00:01:47,880 have all experienced stuff, Civil War, Revolutionary War 48 00:01:47,880 --> 00:01:48,760 soldiers there. 49 00:01:48,800 --> 00:01:51,360 Is it just one building around a set of walls? 50 00:01:51,360 --> 00:01:52,640 Or is there a couple different buildings 51 00:01:52,640 --> 00:01:53,680 or certain areas? 52 00:01:53,680 --> 00:01:55,320 You have multiple buildings on the ground, 53 00:01:55,320 --> 00:01:57,880 and supposedly a lot of them have activity. 54 00:01:57,880 --> 00:01:59,440 Guys, I think the main thing we got to do 55 00:01:59,440 --> 00:02:01,360 is get up there and try to put some truth 56 00:02:01,360 --> 00:02:02,880 behind some of these claims, 57 00:02:02,880 --> 00:02:04,520 really try to figure out what's going on. 58 00:02:04,520 --> 00:02:06,320 I know it's got a great history behind it, 59 00:02:06,320 --> 00:02:08,280 but we got to try to put that in the back of our minds 60 00:02:08,280 --> 00:02:10,000 when we're investigating this place. 61 00:02:10,000 --> 00:02:10,960 All right, let's get everything packed, 62 00:02:10,960 --> 00:02:11,800 and let's get out of here. 63 00:02:11,800 --> 00:02:12,640 Come on. 64 00:02:12,640 --> 00:02:13,800 Let's go back to Philly, folks. 65 00:02:15,640 --> 00:02:16,840 Hey, just in time. 66 00:02:16,840 --> 00:02:18,680 And I'm pretty excited to check this place out, 67 00:02:18,680 --> 00:02:21,120 because there's been quite a buzz about it 68 00:02:21,120 --> 00:02:22,040 around the tap's office. 69 00:02:22,040 --> 00:02:24,760 We've been getting phone calls, we've been getting emails. 70 00:02:26,200 --> 00:02:27,840 For quite a few years, people tell us, 71 00:02:27,840 --> 00:02:29,880 if you're going to check out any place in Philly, 72 00:02:29,880 --> 00:02:31,920 please check out Fort Mifflin. 73 00:02:32,880 --> 00:02:34,280 What's really exciting about this place 74 00:02:34,280 --> 00:02:36,680 is the fact that they have a new area 75 00:02:36,680 --> 00:02:38,360 that they want us to check out and find out 76 00:02:38,360 --> 00:02:41,600 if it's haunted before they really bring the public in. 77 00:02:41,600 --> 00:02:43,600 That's kind of a unique situation for us. 78 00:02:44,600 --> 00:02:46,600 I'm really excited about heading back to Philly, 79 00:02:46,600 --> 00:02:48,040 and especially Fort Mifflin. 80 00:02:48,040 --> 00:02:49,920 There's all different kinds of claims of activity, 81 00:02:49,920 --> 00:02:53,800 from full-body apparitions to screams, voices, 82 00:02:53,800 --> 00:02:55,880 the possibility for activities endless. 83 00:02:55,880 --> 00:02:58,080 But then again, we need to be able to go in there 84 00:02:58,080 --> 00:03:00,760 and try to put all the claims in the back of our mind 85 00:03:00,760 --> 00:03:02,120 and not really think about them, 86 00:03:02,120 --> 00:03:04,520 and try to base the investigation on the evidence 87 00:03:04,520 --> 00:03:05,520 that we're able to catch. 88 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:09,160 This place is huge. 89 00:03:09,160 --> 00:03:10,520 It's bigger than huge. 90 00:03:10,520 --> 00:03:11,520 It's a lot bigger than huge. 91 00:03:11,520 --> 00:03:12,520 It's a lot bigger than huge. 92 00:03:12,520 --> 00:03:13,520 It's bigger than huge. 93 00:03:13,520 --> 00:03:14,520 Amazing. 94 00:03:14,520 --> 00:03:15,520 42 acres. 95 00:03:15,520 --> 00:03:16,520 Look at those walls. 96 00:03:19,520 --> 00:03:20,520 Wow. 97 00:03:20,520 --> 00:03:21,520 Look at this place, guys. 98 00:03:22,520 --> 00:03:23,520 We're gonna have fun here. 99 00:03:28,520 --> 00:03:29,520 Hi, Wayne. 100 00:03:29,520 --> 00:03:30,520 Hello, yes. 101 00:03:30,520 --> 00:03:31,520 I am Jason from TAPS. 102 00:03:31,520 --> 00:03:32,520 Jason. 103 00:03:32,520 --> 00:03:33,520 Greg. 104 00:03:33,520 --> 00:03:34,520 I am Steve. 105 00:03:34,520 --> 00:03:35,520 Nice to meet you. 106 00:03:35,520 --> 00:03:36,520 Nice to meet you. 107 00:03:36,520 --> 00:03:37,520 I'm glad y'all came down to see us. 108 00:03:37,520 --> 00:03:39,520 I would like TAPS to come into Fort Mifflin, 109 00:03:39,520 --> 00:03:41,520 do a scientific research, 110 00:03:41,520 --> 00:03:43,520 and get hard evidence to prove 111 00:03:43,520 --> 00:03:46,520 that we actually do have something going on here. 112 00:03:47,520 --> 00:03:49,520 So we hear there's a lot of paranormal activity 113 00:03:49,520 --> 00:03:50,520 that goes on over here. 114 00:03:50,520 --> 00:03:51,520 It happens throughout the fort. 115 00:03:51,520 --> 00:03:52,520 You want to take us for a walk around 116 00:03:52,520 --> 00:03:53,520 and show us the areas of the fort? 117 00:03:53,520 --> 00:03:54,520 Sure. 118 00:03:54,520 --> 00:03:56,520 Let's first go to the dungeons. 119 00:03:57,520 --> 00:03:59,520 Fort Mifflin, it was originally built in 1771. 120 00:03:59,520 --> 00:04:01,520 By 1777, during the Revolutionary War, 121 00:04:01,520 --> 00:04:04,520 it was involved in a major bombardment. 122 00:04:05,520 --> 00:04:07,520 The battle went on for six weeks. 123 00:04:07,520 --> 00:04:10,520 We lost approximately 150 men. 124 00:04:10,520 --> 00:04:12,520 The fort was pretty much leveled 125 00:04:12,520 --> 00:04:13,520 when the battle was ended. 126 00:04:13,520 --> 00:04:15,520 It held off long enough 127 00:04:15,520 --> 00:04:17,520 to allow Washington and his army 128 00:04:17,520 --> 00:04:18,520 to go up the Valley Forge. 129 00:04:18,520 --> 00:04:19,520 We believe that because of that, 130 00:04:19,520 --> 00:04:21,520 we delayed the British Navy 131 00:04:21,520 --> 00:04:23,520 long enough to go into Philadelphia 132 00:04:23,520 --> 00:04:25,520 to allow the army to go into Valley Forge. 133 00:04:25,520 --> 00:04:26,520 For long in the Revolution, 134 00:04:26,520 --> 00:04:29,520 we could say the fort to saved America. 135 00:04:30,520 --> 00:04:32,520 During the war, this section of the fort 136 00:04:32,520 --> 00:04:33,520 was used to house prisoners. 137 00:04:33,520 --> 00:04:34,520 Okay. 138 00:04:34,520 --> 00:04:36,520 Reginaldo's purpose was to be a place of safety, 139 00:04:36,520 --> 00:04:38,520 refuge, never used as that. 140 00:04:38,520 --> 00:04:40,520 During the war, with so many prisoners, 141 00:04:40,520 --> 00:04:43,520 they were putting them anywhere they could. 142 00:04:44,520 --> 00:04:45,520 Oh, wow. 143 00:04:47,520 --> 00:04:49,520 What kind of stuff happened in here? 144 00:04:49,520 --> 00:04:51,520 A person that I trust very well 145 00:04:51,520 --> 00:04:52,520 was staying in here overnight, 146 00:04:52,520 --> 00:04:54,520 woke up in the middle of the night, 147 00:04:54,520 --> 00:04:56,520 saw a real war soldier standing 148 00:04:56,520 --> 00:04:58,520 at this fireplace warming himself. 149 00:04:59,520 --> 00:05:02,520 Everybody was in the dungeons at Case Mate 5, 150 00:05:02,520 --> 00:05:05,520 and I decided to leave the case mates 151 00:05:05,520 --> 00:05:07,520 and I was walking down the corridor, 152 00:05:07,520 --> 00:05:10,520 and as I was coming through the tunnel, 153 00:05:10,520 --> 00:05:13,520 I noticed what appeared to be a little person, 154 00:05:14,520 --> 00:05:17,520 and he was just standing there just for a few seconds, 155 00:05:17,520 --> 00:05:20,520 and then all of a sudden, he was no longer there. 156 00:05:22,520 --> 00:05:24,520 How many people would you say died here? 157 00:05:24,520 --> 00:05:25,520 Just in the dungeon. 158 00:05:25,520 --> 00:05:26,520 How many people? 159 00:05:26,520 --> 00:05:27,520 30. 160 00:05:27,520 --> 00:05:29,520 30, and that's just in the dungeon area. 161 00:05:29,520 --> 00:05:32,520 Yes, during the time period that it was used as a prison. 162 00:05:32,520 --> 00:05:33,520 It's fantastic. 163 00:05:34,520 --> 00:05:37,520 This is the officers' quarters, dates to 1814. 164 00:05:37,520 --> 00:05:38,520 Let's go upstairs. 165 00:05:42,520 --> 00:05:44,520 There would have been four officers all together 166 00:05:44,520 --> 00:05:45,520 in this building, 167 00:05:45,520 --> 00:05:47,520 and they could have brought their wives. 168 00:05:47,520 --> 00:05:49,520 Matter of fact, we know of one officer that did. 169 00:05:49,520 --> 00:05:51,520 His wife's name was Elizabeth Pratt. 170 00:05:51,520 --> 00:05:53,520 She had gotten an argument with a daughter, 171 00:05:53,520 --> 00:05:55,520 they had quit talking, the daughter dies, 172 00:05:55,520 --> 00:05:59,520 and she went around moaning and groaning, screaming for weeks. 173 00:05:59,520 --> 00:06:01,520 And finally, the man woke up, 174 00:06:01,520 --> 00:06:04,520 she had walked out those doors to the railing, 175 00:06:04,520 --> 00:06:07,520 tied the rope to the railing, and jumped. 176 00:06:07,520 --> 00:06:08,520 She had eyes. 177 00:06:08,520 --> 00:06:09,520 Oh, man. 178 00:06:09,520 --> 00:06:12,520 We have a lot of school groups come in to the fort. 179 00:06:12,520 --> 00:06:14,520 I was walking backwards through the parade ground, 180 00:06:14,520 --> 00:06:15,520 past the enlisted quarters, 181 00:06:15,520 --> 00:06:17,520 the officers' quarters to my back, 182 00:06:17,520 --> 00:06:18,520 and I was talking to the kids. 183 00:06:18,520 --> 00:06:20,520 Suddenly, their faces went ashen. 184 00:06:20,520 --> 00:06:21,520 Some of them screaming. 185 00:06:21,520 --> 00:06:23,520 Some went into tears screaming, 186 00:06:23,520 --> 00:06:24,520 who is the woman in the window? 187 00:06:24,520 --> 00:06:26,520 What is wrong with her? 188 00:06:27,520 --> 00:06:29,520 And I turned around, I didn't see anything. 189 00:06:29,520 --> 00:06:30,520 I said, which window? 190 00:06:30,520 --> 00:06:33,520 And they pointed right to the room that she had committed suicide in. 191 00:06:35,520 --> 00:06:36,520 All right, so where to now? 192 00:06:36,520 --> 00:06:38,520 Right up ahead is casemate number 11. 193 00:06:38,520 --> 00:06:42,520 These are rooms we found 130-something years 194 00:06:42,520 --> 00:06:44,520 since anybody was in there. 195 00:06:44,520 --> 00:06:45,520 Okay. 196 00:06:45,520 --> 00:06:48,520 Stayed buried till last year whenever I was moaning along, 197 00:06:48,520 --> 00:06:51,520 found the sinkhole, it led me right into the entrance. 198 00:06:51,520 --> 00:06:54,520 It's tight in there, and oppressive, very oppressive. 199 00:06:54,520 --> 00:06:55,520 Do they know what it was? 200 00:06:55,520 --> 00:06:56,520 What it was used for? 201 00:06:56,520 --> 00:06:59,520 We believe that it was built in the original construction 202 00:06:59,520 --> 00:07:00,520 of this wall. 203 00:07:00,520 --> 00:07:04,520 We know that in 1861, it was converted over to solitary confinement 204 00:07:04,520 --> 00:07:07,520 and housed one prisoner named William H. Howell, 205 00:07:07,520 --> 00:07:09,520 who was hung here at the fort. 206 00:07:09,520 --> 00:07:10,520 What was he hung for? 207 00:07:10,520 --> 00:07:12,520 Murder and desertion. 208 00:07:12,520 --> 00:07:15,520 So is that pretty much it of the areas out here? 209 00:07:15,520 --> 00:07:16,520 Yes. 210 00:07:16,520 --> 00:07:18,520 You have free reign of the fort, 211 00:07:18,520 --> 00:07:20,520 and I hope you have an enjoyable night. 212 00:07:20,520 --> 00:07:21,520 Well, we're looking forward to it. 213 00:07:21,520 --> 00:07:23,520 We're just going to set up all the equipment 214 00:07:23,520 --> 00:07:25,520 and start figuring this place out. 215 00:07:25,520 --> 00:07:26,520 Anyway, I can help you. 216 00:07:26,520 --> 00:07:27,520 Let me know. 217 00:07:27,520 --> 00:07:28,520 I appreciate it. 218 00:07:28,520 --> 00:07:29,520 Thanks, buddy. 219 00:07:29,520 --> 00:07:32,520 If TAP should get hard evidence, such as a video, 220 00:07:32,520 --> 00:07:34,520 that would be exciting. 221 00:07:34,520 --> 00:07:36,520 All I know is that odd things happen, 222 00:07:36,520 --> 00:07:39,520 and I have no explanation for it. 223 00:07:40,520 --> 00:07:44,520 Fort Mifflin is huge, and it's such a piece of history. 224 00:07:44,520 --> 00:07:47,520 I'm just honored to be here, and I'm happy that they called us in, 225 00:07:47,520 --> 00:07:49,520 and they're allowing us to investigate. 226 00:07:49,520 --> 00:07:52,520 And now we just need to try to gather as much evidence as we can. 227 00:07:54,520 --> 00:07:56,520 We got power, no problem. 228 00:07:56,520 --> 00:07:58,520 We're getting that up now. 229 00:07:58,520 --> 00:07:59,520 All right. 230 00:07:59,520 --> 00:08:01,520 Oh, there's a spider. 231 00:08:01,520 --> 00:08:03,520 There's spiders on these ants. 232 00:08:03,520 --> 00:08:04,520 Red ants. 233 00:08:04,520 --> 00:08:05,520 Oh, God. 234 00:08:05,520 --> 00:08:06,520 Hundreds of them. 235 00:08:06,520 --> 00:08:09,520 I really hope to capture some type of apparition tonight. 236 00:08:09,520 --> 00:08:10,520 That's what I'm aiming for. 237 00:08:10,520 --> 00:08:12,520 You know, we're going to be in places that he told us that 238 00:08:12,520 --> 00:08:15,520 people haven't set foot in 150 years. 239 00:08:15,520 --> 00:08:17,520 Down and maybe go left a little bit. 240 00:08:17,520 --> 00:08:19,520 It's kind of interesting to have someone say, 241 00:08:19,520 --> 00:08:20,520 hey, here's a new part. 242 00:08:20,520 --> 00:08:23,520 Tell us if you're going to have some activity in there, too. 243 00:08:23,520 --> 00:08:26,520 Hopefully it lives up to its reputation. 244 00:08:28,520 --> 00:08:29,520 All right, so where are these at? 245 00:08:29,520 --> 00:08:31,520 Well, we got the three hottest spots, 246 00:08:31,520 --> 00:08:34,520 which would be the dungeon, of course, 247 00:08:34,520 --> 00:08:37,520 the magazine area, 248 00:08:37,520 --> 00:08:39,520 and the second floor living area. 249 00:08:39,520 --> 00:08:41,520 All right, let's do this then. 250 00:08:41,520 --> 00:08:43,520 Let's get the digital recorders with each camera. 251 00:08:43,520 --> 00:08:44,520 Lights out. Let's go. 252 00:08:44,520 --> 00:08:46,520 Everyone take a walkie. 253 00:08:46,520 --> 00:08:51,520 Watch your head. 254 00:08:51,520 --> 00:08:53,520 Watch your head. 255 00:08:53,520 --> 00:09:06,520 All right, let's go up here. 256 00:09:06,520 --> 00:09:11,520 So this is where this lady supposedly hung herself right here. 257 00:09:11,520 --> 00:09:15,520 Jane, I headed into the officer's quarters to try in. 258 00:09:15,520 --> 00:09:17,520 Experience what happened there. 259 00:09:17,520 --> 00:09:22,520 I really, really like to catch the screams of that woman, Elizabeth, on EVP. 260 00:09:22,520 --> 00:09:25,520 Elizabeth was the woman that killed herself in here. 261 00:09:25,520 --> 00:09:28,520 This whole room leans to one side. 262 00:09:28,520 --> 00:09:29,520 Yeah. 263 00:09:29,520 --> 00:09:30,520 Like a boat. 264 00:09:30,520 --> 00:09:33,520 It's very disorienting. 265 00:09:33,520 --> 00:09:34,520 They got no argument. 266 00:09:34,520 --> 00:09:35,520 Her daughter died. 267 00:09:35,520 --> 00:09:38,520 So she hung herself off the boat here. 268 00:09:38,520 --> 00:09:43,520 Elizabeth, are you here tonight? 269 00:09:43,520 --> 00:09:45,520 Don't be afraid of us. 270 00:09:45,520 --> 00:09:47,520 We have a device here that can just capture your voice. 271 00:09:47,520 --> 00:09:50,520 EVP stands for electronic voice phenomena. 272 00:09:50,520 --> 00:09:55,520 It's when you capture a voice or a sound on a recorder, in this case a digital recorder, 273 00:09:55,520 --> 00:09:58,520 that wasn't there when you were investigating. 274 00:09:58,520 --> 00:10:03,520 So if you could come as close as you can to this red light and speak as loudly as you can to us, 275 00:10:03,520 --> 00:10:10,520 you understood that you and your daughter had an argument, 276 00:10:10,520 --> 00:10:14,520 and then she died. 277 00:10:14,520 --> 00:10:18,520 You never had a chance to say goodbye or to make things right. 278 00:10:18,520 --> 00:10:25,520 If we're not getting any response, we like to try to provoke, try to make whatever's in the home upset, angry with us, 279 00:10:25,520 --> 00:10:29,520 hoping that in return it's going to either move an object or make a noise, 280 00:10:29,520 --> 00:10:32,520 or give us some kind of proof that it's actually there. 281 00:10:32,520 --> 00:10:40,520 If you could demonstrate how much that meant to you and how much anguish you had. 282 00:10:43,520 --> 00:10:45,520 I don't know. 283 00:10:45,520 --> 00:10:47,520 Did you hear that? 284 00:10:48,520 --> 00:10:51,520 Elizabeth, if that was you, can you show us a little bit more? 285 00:10:51,520 --> 00:10:57,520 We need to understand exactly how much you hurt so we can help you. 286 00:10:57,520 --> 00:10:59,520 Yeah, so I'm like, yeah. 287 00:10:59,520 --> 00:11:02,520 Yeah, I just heard the name of mommy. 288 00:11:02,520 --> 00:11:04,520 What? 289 00:11:09,520 --> 00:11:11,520 Did you hear that? 290 00:11:11,520 --> 00:11:15,520 Elizabeth, if that was you, can you show us a little bit more? 291 00:11:15,520 --> 00:11:20,520 We need to understand exactly how much you hurt so we can help you. 292 00:11:20,520 --> 00:11:22,520 Yeah, so we will. 293 00:11:22,520 --> 00:11:28,520 Yeah, I just heard the name of mommy. 294 00:11:28,520 --> 00:11:31,520 What? I didn't hear it. 295 00:11:33,520 --> 00:11:39,520 Well, Grant and I were investigating the officer's quarter, so we were trying to get Elizabeth to scream or make any sound. 296 00:11:39,520 --> 00:11:46,520 At one point it almost sounded like a woman, a lady's voice, that said mom or mommy, but there was nobody around. 297 00:11:46,520 --> 00:11:51,520 So we need to analyze the digital recorders and see if we were able to pick up any of that. 298 00:11:51,520 --> 00:11:55,520 All right, Tayo, this is the blacksmith shop, obviously. 299 00:11:55,520 --> 00:11:56,520 Yep. 300 00:11:56,520 --> 00:12:01,520 And reports in here are a back door there opening and closing on its own. 301 00:12:01,520 --> 00:12:07,520 Feelings of dread, feelings of misfortune, feeling of being watched. 302 00:12:07,520 --> 00:12:09,520 This is the door. 303 00:12:09,520 --> 00:12:12,520 Which is the door, I suppose. 304 00:12:12,520 --> 00:12:19,520 Apparently it hasn't been opened in quite some time because those are come and gone cobwebs, spiderwebs. 305 00:12:19,520 --> 00:12:20,520 Yeah. 306 00:12:20,520 --> 00:12:24,520 So if this door is opening and closing on its own, it hasn't been in the last few months. 307 00:12:24,520 --> 00:12:25,520 True. 308 00:12:26,520 --> 00:12:30,520 So if that did happen, it happened a long time ago. 309 00:12:30,520 --> 00:12:37,520 Does anybody here with us would really like you to communicate with us? 310 00:12:37,520 --> 00:12:41,520 We have a lot of respect for you. 311 00:12:41,520 --> 00:12:44,520 And we really admire you giving your life for your country. 312 00:12:44,520 --> 00:12:50,520 And we'd like to talk to you and learn a little bit more about that. 313 00:12:50,520 --> 00:12:52,520 Sure. 314 00:12:52,520 --> 00:12:55,520 Ah, f**k, what? 315 00:12:55,520 --> 00:12:57,520 Oh, God, look at that thing. 316 00:12:57,520 --> 00:13:01,520 I do have a tremendous fear of basically anything that crawls. 317 00:13:01,520 --> 00:13:03,520 Spiders, of course, is my biggest. 318 00:13:03,520 --> 00:13:07,520 And every single section of this place is covered with insects. 319 00:13:07,520 --> 00:13:09,520 Oh. 320 00:13:12,520 --> 00:13:15,520 Here's the door that moves on its own. 321 00:13:18,520 --> 00:13:20,520 Hello? 322 00:13:20,520 --> 00:13:22,520 Soldier man. 323 00:13:22,520 --> 00:13:25,520 See 20, 30 people died in here? 324 00:13:25,520 --> 00:13:31,520 There are reports of an apparition, a revolutionary war soldier and a civil war soldier. 325 00:13:34,520 --> 00:13:38,520 I can't even see into these rooms. 326 00:13:38,520 --> 00:13:39,520 I got it. 327 00:13:39,520 --> 00:13:40,520 It's the beauty of the thermal. 328 00:13:40,520 --> 00:13:42,520 Absolutely. 329 00:13:42,520 --> 00:13:44,520 Is somebody sitting on the bench? 330 00:13:44,520 --> 00:13:45,520 What? 331 00:13:45,520 --> 00:13:47,520 There's a hot spot on the bench. 332 00:13:47,520 --> 00:13:49,520 Where is it? 333 00:13:49,520 --> 00:13:50,520 Here? 334 00:13:50,520 --> 00:13:52,520 Right where your hand is. 335 00:13:52,520 --> 00:13:59,520 As we went into Case Mate 5, one of the cots in particular had a hot spot to it, like someone had been sitting there. 336 00:13:59,520 --> 00:14:01,520 Okay, there's my handprint in this. 337 00:14:01,520 --> 00:14:03,520 It's warmer. 338 00:14:05,520 --> 00:14:07,520 I'm feeling warmer. 339 00:14:07,520 --> 00:14:09,520 It's definitely warmer. 340 00:14:09,520 --> 00:14:11,520 It's warm to your hand, but... 341 00:14:11,520 --> 00:14:16,520 It wasn't ridiculously hot, but it was warm enough to show that definitely something had caused it to be warm. 342 00:14:16,520 --> 00:14:19,520 We couldn't find any reason for it. 343 00:14:19,520 --> 00:14:20,520 Steve? 344 00:14:20,520 --> 00:14:21,520 Tango? 345 00:14:21,520 --> 00:14:22,520 Come here. 346 00:14:22,520 --> 00:14:23,520 How about time? 347 00:14:23,520 --> 00:14:24,520 Dude? 348 00:14:24,520 --> 00:14:25,520 What? 349 00:14:25,520 --> 00:14:26,520 I just saw something. 350 00:14:26,520 --> 00:14:33,520 I break off with Steve to use the bathroom, and as I'm walking in, the woman's bathroom's to the left and right in front of me is the men's bathroom. 351 00:14:33,520 --> 00:14:41,520 I totally, totally see someone about to walk out of the bathroom, blocking the light that is in the woman's bathroom, and then walk right back in real fast. 352 00:14:41,520 --> 00:14:46,520 I come back like this, I'm like, hello, hello, hello, no one's answering. 353 00:14:46,520 --> 00:14:48,520 So maybe, you know, we reached Chris, I don't know. 354 00:14:48,520 --> 00:14:50,520 I walk inside, I had to. 355 00:14:50,520 --> 00:14:51,520 Sorry. 356 00:14:51,520 --> 00:14:52,520 No, it's in the girls room? 357 00:14:52,520 --> 00:14:53,520 Yeah. 358 00:14:53,520 --> 00:14:56,520 Look at all the stalls, no one's here. 359 00:14:58,520 --> 00:14:59,520 Something blocked, the light. 360 00:14:59,520 --> 00:15:02,520 I saw legs, gone, but go back in. 361 00:15:02,520 --> 00:15:03,520 I saw it. 362 00:15:03,520 --> 00:15:06,520 Were they solid or were they like, like a shadow? 363 00:15:06,520 --> 00:15:13,520 It was like this, like this shadow, you see the shadow of someone coming out, you see like legs, and it was like this. 364 00:15:14,520 --> 00:15:15,520 It was back in. 365 00:15:16,520 --> 00:15:19,520 This is, I have to say, this really, really happened. 366 00:15:19,520 --> 00:15:21,520 I totally saw this, and it was with my own eyes. 367 00:15:21,520 --> 00:15:24,520 This is, I think this is, this is the experience I wanted. 368 00:15:24,520 --> 00:15:25,520 You know what we can do? 369 00:15:25,520 --> 00:15:26,520 Let me see this. 370 00:15:27,520 --> 00:15:29,520 We're going to do a mini-DV list for a little while. 371 00:15:29,520 --> 00:15:30,520 Okay. 372 00:15:30,520 --> 00:15:32,520 Is it getting the floor at all? 373 00:15:32,520 --> 00:15:33,520 Yep. 374 00:15:33,520 --> 00:15:35,520 It's got about 50 minutes on it. 375 00:15:37,520 --> 00:15:41,520 So right now the guys are all running around, checking out the different rooms. 376 00:15:41,520 --> 00:15:45,520 I'm just hanging out here, watching the screen and the audio. 377 00:15:45,520 --> 00:15:49,520 I wouldn't mind some crazy happening right here tonight. 378 00:15:50,520 --> 00:15:51,520 Here I'll go. 379 00:15:52,520 --> 00:15:57,520 Jay and I really want to focus on Case Mate 11 because nobody's ever investigated it before. 380 00:15:57,520 --> 00:16:00,520 And we don't know if we'll ever get a chance to come back and investigate it. 381 00:16:00,520 --> 00:16:02,520 So we hit it with everything we have. 382 00:16:04,520 --> 00:16:06,520 Dude, I feel like we're in a pyramid. 383 00:16:06,520 --> 00:16:07,520 Yeah, this is rough. 384 00:16:07,520 --> 00:16:09,520 I'm not begging the cost of Fovrick. 385 00:16:12,520 --> 00:16:14,520 Look at this. 386 00:16:19,520 --> 00:16:20,520 What did you get? 387 00:16:20,520 --> 00:16:21,520 Dude, something just moved down this way. 388 00:16:21,520 --> 00:16:22,520 What did it look like? 389 00:16:22,520 --> 00:16:24,520 It was somebody frigging crawling. 390 00:16:24,520 --> 00:16:25,520 What? 391 00:16:26,520 --> 00:16:27,520 Holy crap. 392 00:16:27,520 --> 00:16:28,520 You all right? 393 00:16:28,520 --> 00:16:29,520 Fuck. 394 00:16:35,520 --> 00:16:36,520 What did you get? 395 00:16:36,520 --> 00:16:38,520 Dude, something just moved down this way. 396 00:16:38,520 --> 00:16:39,520 What did it look like? 397 00:16:39,520 --> 00:16:40,520 Somebody frigging crawling. 398 00:16:40,520 --> 00:16:41,520 What? 399 00:16:43,520 --> 00:16:44,520 Holy crap. 400 00:16:44,520 --> 00:16:45,520 You all right? 401 00:16:45,520 --> 00:16:46,520 Fuck. 402 00:16:46,520 --> 00:16:51,520 Grand and I were investigating Case Mate 11 and all of a sudden on my right hand side 403 00:16:51,520 --> 00:16:57,520 I saw something which looked like a person hunched over scurrying through a really thin area. 404 00:16:57,520 --> 00:16:59,520 I gotta get out of here. 405 00:17:00,520 --> 00:17:02,520 I'm sweating bad already. 406 00:17:04,520 --> 00:17:09,520 I'm slightly claustrophobic and being in those tight confined areas, especially underground 407 00:17:09,520 --> 00:17:11,520 can really start to bother me. 408 00:17:11,520 --> 00:17:12,520 I can't do this. 409 00:17:12,520 --> 00:17:13,520 I'm here. 410 00:17:13,520 --> 00:17:14,520 You want me to go through? 411 00:17:14,520 --> 00:17:15,520 Yeah, I can't handle that. 412 00:17:15,520 --> 00:17:16,520 That's too much for me here. 413 00:17:16,520 --> 00:17:17,520 Get in there. 414 00:17:17,520 --> 00:17:18,520 All right, I'll use this. 415 00:17:18,520 --> 00:17:19,520 All right. 416 00:17:19,520 --> 00:17:21,520 You're gonna say it gets wicked tight, Jeep. 417 00:17:21,520 --> 00:17:22,520 Wicked tight. 418 00:17:22,520 --> 00:17:26,520 Nice climbing in here knowing that something just crawled back here. 419 00:17:26,520 --> 00:17:28,520 I honestly, man, it looked like somebody crawling. 420 00:17:28,520 --> 00:17:29,520 Like a person? 421 00:17:29,520 --> 00:17:30,520 Yeah. 422 00:17:30,520 --> 00:17:31,520 Oh, dude, that's creepy. 423 00:17:33,520 --> 00:17:35,520 Hey, is someone in that room over there? 424 00:17:35,520 --> 00:17:36,520 Where? 425 00:17:36,520 --> 00:17:37,520 On the other side of this. 426 00:17:37,520 --> 00:17:39,520 Is there another way around it? 427 00:17:39,520 --> 00:17:40,520 Something just moved. 428 00:17:40,520 --> 00:17:45,520 Jay, something just, I swear, I just shined my light in here and something moved from right where you are into that room. 429 00:17:46,520 --> 00:17:47,520 There's no one in there. 430 00:17:47,520 --> 00:17:49,520 I can't, no, it's an empty room, Jeep. 431 00:17:51,520 --> 00:17:52,520 Hey. 432 00:17:54,520 --> 00:17:56,520 There was no other entrances or anything? 433 00:17:56,520 --> 00:17:58,520 Not that I could see, you know. 434 00:17:58,520 --> 00:18:01,520 It goes so far and then it looks like you're standing in a fireplace. 435 00:18:01,520 --> 00:18:02,520 But there were footsteps in there. 436 00:18:02,520 --> 00:18:04,520 Definitely footsteps back there. 437 00:18:04,520 --> 00:18:05,520 I saw it. 438 00:18:05,520 --> 00:18:06,520 It looked just like this, man. 439 00:18:06,520 --> 00:18:08,520 It just came around the corner, like where you are. 440 00:18:08,520 --> 00:18:11,520 It just looked like something went right through there. 441 00:18:11,520 --> 00:18:16,520 The freaky part about down here, man, is that you see stuff and you hear stuff, but you can't, I mean, you're in a tunnel. 442 00:18:16,520 --> 00:18:17,520 You can't turn around. 443 00:18:17,520 --> 00:18:18,520 You can't move her. 444 00:18:18,520 --> 00:18:19,520 That's the scary part, man. 445 00:18:19,520 --> 00:18:21,520 If there was something down here, you couldn't get away from it. 446 00:18:21,520 --> 00:18:22,520 Yeah. 447 00:18:22,520 --> 00:18:23,520 I took a class at Fuller, that's for sure. 448 00:18:23,520 --> 00:18:24,520 That's for sure. 449 00:18:24,520 --> 00:18:27,520 Dude, it looked just like something just went right back. 450 00:18:27,520 --> 00:18:28,520 Oh. 451 00:18:35,520 --> 00:18:36,520 Are you going to school, man? 452 00:18:36,520 --> 00:18:37,520 Not bad, no. 453 00:18:37,520 --> 00:18:40,520 Okay, well, I am and I survived it, so let's go. 454 00:18:40,520 --> 00:18:45,520 Jason and Grant came down a central command to ask me to go down to Case Mate 11. 455 00:18:45,520 --> 00:18:48,520 We'll let you go in alone and see if you get anything. 456 00:18:48,520 --> 00:18:55,520 She might feel a little uncomfortable now, but she's still in the training stage where, you know, things might really scare her, Spooker. 457 00:18:55,520 --> 00:18:58,520 And I think this will help build that confidence within her. 458 00:18:58,520 --> 00:19:00,520 That is for really cute questions. 459 00:19:00,520 --> 00:19:03,520 Take the digital recorder, do some EVP work while you're in there. 460 00:19:03,520 --> 00:19:05,520 Okay, I don't even know what to think right now. 461 00:19:05,520 --> 00:19:09,520 I'm already freaking myself out, but I'm going to do it. 462 00:19:09,520 --> 00:19:11,520 All right, what kind of coffin do you want? 463 00:19:11,520 --> 00:19:13,520 What's that? 464 00:19:13,520 --> 00:19:14,520 What? 465 00:19:14,520 --> 00:19:17,520 I'm going to be right up here, only about 20 feet away from you. 466 00:19:17,520 --> 00:19:18,520 All right. 467 00:19:18,520 --> 00:19:19,520 Egg him on. 468 00:19:19,520 --> 00:19:20,520 All right. 469 00:19:20,520 --> 00:19:21,520 Okay. 470 00:19:21,520 --> 00:19:22,520 Egg him down there in a second. 471 00:19:22,520 --> 00:19:23,520 All right. 472 00:19:26,520 --> 00:19:27,520 Come on. 473 00:19:44,520 --> 00:19:46,520 He's just a person. 474 00:19:48,520 --> 00:19:50,520 He's just a person. 475 00:19:50,520 --> 00:19:51,520 Just a person. 476 00:19:51,520 --> 00:19:52,520 Just a person. 477 00:19:56,520 --> 00:19:58,520 Oh, I don't think I can do this. 478 00:19:58,520 --> 00:20:00,520 Hey, you guys. 479 00:20:04,520 --> 00:20:06,520 Hey, you guys. 480 00:20:11,520 --> 00:20:13,520 Hey, you guys. 481 00:20:21,520 --> 00:20:22,520 Hey, Jay. 482 00:20:22,520 --> 00:20:23,520 Yeah, Chris. 483 00:20:23,520 --> 00:20:24,520 Yeah. 484 00:20:24,520 --> 00:20:29,520 I just like keeps going funky on me and it's freaking me out a little bit because I'm afraid it's going to die. 485 00:20:29,520 --> 00:20:30,520 All right. 486 00:20:30,520 --> 00:20:33,520 Everyone's got a different level of what they can handle in a situation. 487 00:20:33,520 --> 00:20:36,520 We always teach our investigators to trust their feelings. 488 00:20:36,520 --> 00:20:38,520 If you can endure it, keep enduring it that next step. 489 00:20:38,520 --> 00:20:40,520 And if it gets too crazy, then leave. 490 00:20:40,520 --> 00:20:45,520 But hopefully the next time you're in that situation, you can do it a little bit longer. 491 00:20:45,520 --> 00:20:46,520 What's up? 492 00:20:46,520 --> 00:20:48,520 I don't think I can do it for myself. 493 00:20:48,520 --> 00:20:49,520 All right, that's fine. 494 00:20:49,520 --> 00:20:50,520 Come on up. 495 00:20:50,520 --> 00:20:53,520 Don't, don't be angry. 496 00:20:53,520 --> 00:20:54,520 I couldn't do it. 497 00:20:54,520 --> 00:20:56,520 I just couldn't do it. 498 00:20:56,520 --> 00:20:58,520 It just felt heavy in general. 499 00:20:58,520 --> 00:20:59,520 It freaked out. 500 00:20:59,520 --> 00:21:03,520 I got past the first door right to where the hallway splits off. 501 00:21:03,520 --> 00:21:06,520 I got crazy tightening my chest. 502 00:21:06,520 --> 00:21:09,520 I started to panic a little and my flashlight started going funky. 503 00:21:09,520 --> 00:21:10,520 So I thought it was going to go out on me. 504 00:21:10,520 --> 00:21:13,520 The last thing I want to do is be down there with no light. 505 00:21:13,520 --> 00:21:16,520 What you got to do, you got to decide what you feel is best for you. 506 00:21:16,520 --> 00:21:17,520 Me? 507 00:21:17,520 --> 00:21:19,520 Then don't ever stray from that. 508 00:21:19,520 --> 00:21:20,520 Yeah. 509 00:21:20,520 --> 00:21:22,520 If you feel comfortable inside, do it. 510 00:21:22,520 --> 00:21:23,520 If you don't, don't. 511 00:21:23,520 --> 00:21:25,520 I look at things slightly different. 512 00:21:25,520 --> 00:21:26,520 Life is a challenge. 513 00:21:26,520 --> 00:21:29,520 You know, it's like I'm really claustrophobic. 514 00:21:29,520 --> 00:21:31,520 But I had to go through that small tunnel. 515 00:21:31,520 --> 00:21:34,520 I had to get myself in there all the way to the end and hang there. 516 00:21:34,520 --> 00:21:35,520 Yeah. 517 00:21:35,520 --> 00:21:37,520 Because it's a fear. 518 00:21:39,520 --> 00:21:42,520 Steve and I went to the Commodance quarters. 519 00:21:42,520 --> 00:21:46,520 And it's pretty much, I mean, dirt everywhere, web, just everything. 520 00:21:46,520 --> 00:21:48,520 But let's check it out. 521 00:21:48,520 --> 00:21:49,520 What the hell, no. 522 00:21:49,520 --> 00:21:50,520 Go under there. 523 00:21:50,520 --> 00:21:51,520 How much money would you give me? 524 00:21:51,520 --> 00:21:52,520 Crawl under there? 525 00:21:52,520 --> 00:21:53,520 Yeah. 526 00:21:53,520 --> 00:21:55,520 What is that, 60? 527 00:21:57,520 --> 00:21:59,520 Oh my God, man. 528 00:21:59,520 --> 00:22:00,520 Look at that. 529 00:22:00,520 --> 00:22:01,520 Oh, what is that? 530 00:22:01,520 --> 00:22:04,520 Get to go into the middle of the platform underneath. 531 00:22:04,520 --> 00:22:05,520 Damn it, man. 532 00:22:05,520 --> 00:22:06,520 You're going to do it? 533 00:22:06,520 --> 00:22:07,520 Yeah. 534 00:22:07,520 --> 00:22:08,520 Just get the light in there, please. 535 00:22:08,520 --> 00:22:09,520 You know what's under there? 536 00:22:09,520 --> 00:22:10,520 Spiders. 537 00:22:10,520 --> 00:22:12,520 You don't have any centipedes around there. 538 00:22:12,520 --> 00:22:15,520 No chick hot enough could make me crawl under there with all those bugs. 539 00:22:16,520 --> 00:22:17,520 Oh, God. 540 00:22:17,520 --> 00:22:18,520 Oh, God. 541 00:22:19,520 --> 00:22:20,520 Is that good enough? 542 00:22:20,520 --> 00:22:21,520 No. 543 00:22:21,520 --> 00:22:23,520 I said your feet have to be sticking out. 544 00:22:23,520 --> 00:22:24,520 Come on. 545 00:22:24,520 --> 00:22:25,520 I need that light. 546 00:22:25,520 --> 00:22:26,520 I need that light. 547 00:22:26,520 --> 00:22:27,520 I got it. 548 00:22:27,520 --> 00:22:28,520 There it is. 549 00:22:28,520 --> 00:22:29,520 Oh, f***. 550 00:22:29,520 --> 00:22:31,520 Get out of the f***. 551 00:22:31,520 --> 00:22:32,520 That's it? 552 00:22:32,520 --> 00:22:33,520 No, I'm a taggle. 553 00:22:33,520 --> 00:22:34,520 I can still see you. 554 00:22:34,520 --> 00:22:35,520 That's it? 555 00:22:35,520 --> 00:22:36,520 No, I'm a taggle. 556 00:22:36,520 --> 00:22:37,520 Oh, oh. 557 00:22:37,520 --> 00:22:38,520 Get away. 558 00:22:38,520 --> 00:22:39,520 Get away. 559 00:22:39,520 --> 00:22:40,520 Whoa, Steve. 560 00:22:40,520 --> 00:22:44,520 There's a spider now right in front of me, right in front of my face. 561 00:22:44,520 --> 00:22:46,520 Steve, there's something crawling over here. 562 00:22:46,520 --> 00:22:47,520 There you go. 563 00:22:47,520 --> 00:22:49,520 What the f*** did I just do? 564 00:22:49,520 --> 00:22:51,520 What the hell did I just... 565 00:22:51,520 --> 00:22:53,520 In my head, please? 566 00:22:53,520 --> 00:22:55,520 I pretty much think I came out on top. 567 00:22:55,520 --> 00:22:56,520 You're a brave man, Daniel. 568 00:22:56,520 --> 00:22:57,520 Am I good? 569 00:22:57,520 --> 00:22:58,520 Am I good? 570 00:22:58,520 --> 00:22:59,520 Yeah. 571 00:22:59,520 --> 00:23:02,520 You know, I got 60 bucks and I challenged myself and I accomplished something. 572 00:23:02,520 --> 00:23:03,520 I wouldn't do it. 573 00:23:06,520 --> 00:23:09,520 Is there anybody in here? 574 00:23:09,520 --> 00:23:12,520 Jay and I wanted to head back down in the case made 11 for the first time. 575 00:23:12,520 --> 00:23:16,520 Jay and I wanted to head back down in the case made 11 for two reasons. 576 00:23:16,520 --> 00:23:19,520 Number one, to follow up on our own experiences down there. 577 00:23:19,520 --> 00:23:23,520 And also to find out if there's any reason why Chris was so freaked out. 578 00:23:23,520 --> 00:23:24,520 Paige. 579 00:23:24,520 --> 00:23:27,520 You hear that? 580 00:23:27,520 --> 00:23:28,520 Yeah. 581 00:23:28,520 --> 00:23:30,520 I'm almost suddenly breathing. 582 00:23:30,520 --> 00:23:32,520 Is that what you're talking about? 583 00:23:32,520 --> 00:23:34,520 It almost sounds like a little whisper. 584 00:23:34,520 --> 00:23:35,520 Yeah. 585 00:23:35,520 --> 00:23:37,520 While we were down there, we started hearing some odd noises. 586 00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:39,520 It was hard to tell where they were coming from so we split up. 587 00:23:39,520 --> 00:23:43,520 And I went down the vent and just on the other side of the wall from Jay. 588 00:23:43,520 --> 00:23:47,520 The air gets thick in here and then you get the feeling like there's someone right next to you. 589 00:23:47,520 --> 00:23:50,520 To the point where you hear breathing. 590 00:24:03,520 --> 00:24:04,520 You leaving? 591 00:24:04,520 --> 00:24:05,520 No. 592 00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:07,520 Something's wrong. 593 00:24:08,520 --> 00:24:10,520 Something's... listen. 594 00:24:10,520 --> 00:24:12,520 I mean you hear that? 595 00:24:12,520 --> 00:24:13,520 Yeah. 596 00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:15,520 It's in the walkway. 597 00:24:18,520 --> 00:24:22,520 There's something scraping on the inside of the walls. 598 00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:26,520 Oh man, that's not a comfortable feeling. 599 00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:28,520 Do you see anything down there? 600 00:24:28,520 --> 00:24:30,520 I'm not getting any of that. 601 00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:36,520 It feels like if I turn this light on, I'm going to see somebody. 602 00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:40,520 I keep on hearing something like you're about to pass by this window. 603 00:24:40,520 --> 00:24:41,520 But you're still... 604 00:24:41,520 --> 00:24:43,520 I'm standing right in front of this right here. 605 00:24:43,520 --> 00:24:44,520 You're still at the other end? 606 00:24:44,520 --> 00:24:46,520 Yeah, I see a light. 607 00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:52,520 I'm going to come stand at the other end. 608 00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:53,520 Okay. 609 00:24:53,520 --> 00:24:58,520 I just saw something that almost appeared like a shadow walking by a little doorway leading out. 610 00:24:58,520 --> 00:25:01,520 But it was walking towards your way. 611 00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:03,520 What? Towards the entrance of the cell? 612 00:25:03,520 --> 00:25:06,520 Towards the entrance of that little walkway that you're in. 613 00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:08,520 You getting cold? 614 00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:09,520 It's getting cold over here. 615 00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:12,520 And a lot of the people that you see are walking towards you. 616 00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:14,520 I'm not going to walk towards you. 617 00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:16,520 I'm just going to walk towards you. 618 00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:18,520 I'm just going to walk towards you. 619 00:25:18,520 --> 00:25:20,520 I'm just going to walk towards you. 620 00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:22,520 You getting cold? It's getting cold over here. 621 00:25:22,520 --> 00:25:25,520 And a lot of these investigations we come across cold spots. 622 00:25:25,520 --> 00:25:34,520 Well, one of the theories on cold spots are that a spirit trying to manifest itself is drawing in the energy from around it in return making the air colder. 623 00:25:34,520 --> 00:25:37,520 How are you doing, man? Something doesn't feel right. 624 00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:41,520 I keep on hearing a rubbing noise like somebody's dragging their feet. 625 00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:43,520 But I'm not seeing anything. 626 00:25:44,520 --> 00:25:48,440 dia 627 00:25:49,520 --> 00:25:50,520 Don't look at this room. Right here. 628 00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:52,440 dia 629 00:25:57,520 --> 00:26:00,340 How you doing, man? Something doesn't feel right. 630 00:26:00,340 --> 00:26:01,540 I kept on hearing a rubbing noise like someone is dragging their feet.真的ekk 631 00:26:01,540 --> 00:26:04,540 It's like somebody's rubbing, you know, dragging their feet. 632 00:26:04,540 --> 00:26:06,540 But I'm not seeing anything. 633 00:26:11,540 --> 00:26:12,540 Oh, come on, dude. 634 00:26:12,540 --> 00:26:14,540 Don't win this room, right here. 635 00:26:14,540 --> 00:26:15,540 What? 636 00:26:15,540 --> 00:26:18,540 Oh, my gosh, that freaking made me about to crap my pants. 637 00:26:18,540 --> 00:26:20,540 What you see? 638 00:26:20,540 --> 00:26:22,540 I just saw a face. 639 00:26:22,540 --> 00:26:24,540 Oh, my gosh, that scared the crap out of me. 640 00:26:24,540 --> 00:26:27,540 Oh, my gosh. 641 00:26:27,540 --> 00:26:28,540 You see anything? 642 00:26:28,540 --> 00:26:29,540 No, I was facing the other way. 643 00:26:29,540 --> 00:26:31,540 I shined the light through the window, 644 00:26:31,540 --> 00:26:35,540 and when I did that, I saw a face staring back at me. 645 00:26:35,540 --> 00:26:38,540 It just about dropped everything, about crabbed my pants, 646 00:26:38,540 --> 00:26:41,540 just because that was the last thing I expected to see. 647 00:26:41,540 --> 00:26:43,540 And it wasn't see-through, it was a solid face, 648 00:26:43,540 --> 00:26:44,540 looking right at me. 649 00:26:44,540 --> 00:26:47,540 Clean as day, dude, like there was a guy right there, 650 00:26:47,540 --> 00:26:49,540 right here, looking right back at me. 651 00:26:49,540 --> 00:26:51,540 I lost sight of it when I freaked out. 652 00:26:51,540 --> 00:26:54,540 I can still see it right now in my eyes, 653 00:26:54,540 --> 00:26:56,540 and it's not a pleasant sight. 654 00:26:56,540 --> 00:26:58,540 A little bit of a beard. 655 00:26:58,540 --> 00:27:02,540 It had shade in a while, and looked like kind of straggly, 656 00:27:02,540 --> 00:27:06,540 but unclean, blonde hair, pale. 657 00:27:06,540 --> 00:27:08,540 Oh, dude. 658 00:27:08,540 --> 00:27:10,540 I gotta get out of here for a second. 659 00:27:10,540 --> 00:27:13,540 It's not about fear, it's about surprise. 660 00:27:13,540 --> 00:27:15,540 I did not expect to see that. 661 00:27:15,540 --> 00:27:17,540 And somehow I wouldn't care to see again. 662 00:27:18,540 --> 00:27:22,540 This is Dave Tango going down into solitary confinement. 663 00:27:26,540 --> 00:27:28,540 Oh, man. 664 00:27:28,540 --> 00:27:31,540 This is the first time I'm kind of chickening. 665 00:27:31,540 --> 00:27:33,540 I always want to run out of there. 666 00:27:33,540 --> 00:27:38,540 Oh, God, man, I don't like this. 667 00:27:38,540 --> 00:27:40,540 I'm a friend, I'm not. 668 00:27:40,540 --> 00:27:42,540 I'm not a friend. 669 00:27:42,540 --> 00:27:44,540 I'm not a friend. 670 00:27:45,540 --> 00:27:48,540 I'm a friend, I'm not going to harm anyone. 671 00:27:48,540 --> 00:27:51,540 Please don't harm me. 672 00:27:51,540 --> 00:27:53,540 Oh, God, man. 673 00:27:58,540 --> 00:28:03,540 My name is David Tango, and I'm a nice person. 674 00:28:03,540 --> 00:28:05,540 Not here to harm. 675 00:28:05,540 --> 00:28:08,540 Just want to communicate nicely. 676 00:28:09,540 --> 00:28:12,540 Oh, that's kind of getting chills now. 677 00:28:16,540 --> 00:28:18,540 Is there someone here? 678 00:28:25,540 --> 00:28:27,540 Oh, I don't like this. 679 00:28:39,540 --> 00:28:41,540 I can't deal with it. 680 00:28:59,540 --> 00:29:02,540 I just can't be down there anymore. 681 00:29:02,540 --> 00:29:04,540 And I've never been freaked out. 682 00:29:04,540 --> 00:29:06,540 I mean, I just can't. 683 00:29:06,540 --> 00:29:08,540 I don't like it down there. 684 00:29:08,540 --> 00:29:10,540 I don't feel wanted down there. 685 00:29:10,540 --> 00:29:12,540 I feel like I just had to get out. 686 00:29:12,540 --> 00:29:15,540 Tango to Jane Grant. 687 00:29:15,540 --> 00:29:17,540 What's up, Tango? 688 00:29:17,540 --> 00:29:22,540 I was down there for a good 10 minutes, turned my flashlight off, and I just... 689 00:29:22,540 --> 00:29:24,540 Honestly, I couldn't really handle it. 690 00:29:24,540 --> 00:29:31,540 While we were in the dungeon, we got a call on the walkie from Tango saying that he was only able to last about 5, 10 minutes in solitary. 691 00:29:31,540 --> 00:29:33,540 I started hearing things. I got cold. 692 00:29:33,540 --> 00:29:36,540 I just felt like I needed to get out. I have to be honest. 693 00:29:36,540 --> 00:29:38,540 What was interesting is what he told us. 694 00:29:38,540 --> 00:29:40,540 He was hearing the footsteps, he was hearing the sounds. 695 00:29:40,540 --> 00:29:44,540 It started to get cold. He even felt the bad feeling, just like I did. 696 00:29:44,540 --> 00:29:45,540 Like, you shouldn't be in there. 697 00:29:45,540 --> 00:29:50,540 I was hoping the next step for Tango was that he was going to say he saw the face, but he got out of there too quick. 698 00:29:50,540 --> 00:29:55,540 I'm sorry, guys. I kind of chickened out, but I just didn't feel right down there. 699 00:29:55,540 --> 00:29:57,540 I have to be honest, and that's what the government did. 700 00:29:57,540 --> 00:30:00,540 Don't apologize, and it's not chickening out. 701 00:30:00,540 --> 00:30:01,540 It's clean and safe. 702 00:30:01,540 --> 00:30:06,540 It's just, you know, if your body's telling you something, you listen, you get the hell out. 703 00:30:06,540 --> 00:30:08,540 Thanks, guys. 704 00:30:08,540 --> 00:30:09,540 Remember, always. 705 00:30:09,540 --> 00:30:13,540 When in doubt, get the hell out. 706 00:30:13,540 --> 00:30:15,540 Copy that. 707 00:30:15,540 --> 00:30:17,540 Steve Tango, we're going to call it quits. 708 00:30:17,540 --> 00:30:19,540 Copy. 709 00:30:19,540 --> 00:30:22,540 Hey, guys. How's it going? 710 00:30:22,540 --> 00:30:24,540 Well, it's late. 711 00:30:24,540 --> 00:30:27,540 We spent a lot of experiences tonight. There's a lot of evidence gathered. 712 00:30:27,540 --> 00:30:31,540 So we got a lot of stuff to go over, so we can just call it. Let's wrap it. 713 00:30:31,540 --> 00:30:32,540 All right, guys. 714 00:30:32,540 --> 00:30:34,540 All right, let's get the lights on and do this. 715 00:30:36,540 --> 00:30:38,540 We worked hard tonight. We had a lot of ground to cover. 716 00:30:38,540 --> 00:30:41,540 We really put our hearts into EVP work, but, you know, it's late. 717 00:30:41,540 --> 00:30:45,540 It's time to pack up. Time to move on and see what the evidence holds for us. 718 00:30:47,540 --> 00:30:48,540 Hey, what's up? 719 00:30:48,540 --> 00:30:49,540 Hey, guys. 720 00:30:49,540 --> 00:30:51,540 Hey, it's been a great night. 721 00:30:51,540 --> 00:30:53,540 Hopefully you all had fun. 722 00:30:53,540 --> 00:30:55,540 We had a blast, and we appreciate you guys having us out. 723 00:30:55,540 --> 00:30:56,540 Can't thank you enough. 724 00:30:56,540 --> 00:30:59,540 We're glad you all came out. We appreciate your help. 725 00:30:59,540 --> 00:31:00,540 Thanks, man. 726 00:31:00,540 --> 00:31:03,540 What we're going to do over the next few days is analyze the evidence and come back, sit down with you, 727 00:31:03,540 --> 00:31:06,540 let you know what we found, what we didn't find, and we'll take it from there. 728 00:31:06,540 --> 00:31:07,540 I'm looking forward to it. 729 00:31:07,540 --> 00:31:08,540 How about we? 730 00:31:08,540 --> 00:31:09,540 All right, buddy. Get some rest. 731 00:31:09,540 --> 00:31:10,540 All right. 732 00:31:10,540 --> 00:31:11,540 Don't have a safe drive. 733 00:31:11,540 --> 00:31:12,540 All right, man. Get some sleep. 734 00:31:12,540 --> 00:31:13,540 All right. 735 00:31:13,540 --> 00:31:17,540 Well, Taps has been here. There's an amazing amount of equipment they had, 736 00:31:17,540 --> 00:31:20,540 and hopefully they got something on tape, but that's hard to do. 737 00:31:21,540 --> 00:31:24,540 But I'm hoping that they found something out, and no matter what, 738 00:31:24,540 --> 00:31:26,540 give us some truthful answers. 739 00:31:27,540 --> 00:31:29,540 Well, I gotta say, man, I had a good time there. 740 00:31:29,540 --> 00:31:31,540 Well, how cool is it, too, that a new area was uncovered, 741 00:31:31,540 --> 00:31:34,540 and we were asked to see if there was any paranormal activity in there? 742 00:31:34,540 --> 00:31:37,540 Well, I don't know. I think it was a great investigation. 743 00:31:37,540 --> 00:31:40,540 Really? And it was neat to see your willingness, Chris, 744 00:31:40,540 --> 00:31:45,540 to get down into that solitary confinement area, and that case made 11. 745 00:31:45,540 --> 00:31:47,540 It makes you stronger for the next time. 746 00:31:47,540 --> 00:31:49,540 Not the scary, but just for the experience, so you know what it's like. 747 00:31:50,540 --> 00:31:54,540 Well, good job. Let's just hope all the evidence can back up our personal experiences. 748 00:31:54,540 --> 00:31:55,540 Yeah. 749 00:31:59,540 --> 00:32:02,540 Okay, guys, we've got Fort Mifflin. 750 00:32:02,540 --> 00:32:04,540 Yep, got a lot of stuff to go over. 751 00:32:04,540 --> 00:32:07,540 So, Chris, if you want to start with some digital audio and mini-DV, 752 00:32:07,540 --> 00:32:12,540 Tango, wireless audio, thermal, and I'll get the DVR and digital audio. 753 00:32:12,540 --> 00:32:13,540 Cool. 754 00:32:21,540 --> 00:32:24,540 Chris, look at this. 755 00:32:24,540 --> 00:32:29,540 It's real slow. You see, like, something slowly in the corner, it's in front of a doorway. 756 00:32:29,540 --> 00:32:33,540 There's, like, nothing there, and then it was, like, blended in with it. 757 00:32:33,540 --> 00:32:39,540 Tango, it's sort of just like a shadowy mass that pulls itself away from the wall, 758 00:32:39,540 --> 00:32:42,540 dances around on the floor a little bit, and goes back into the wall, 759 00:32:42,540 --> 00:32:45,540 and mark that, and we're going to show that to Jane Graham. 760 00:32:51,540 --> 00:32:52,540 Wow. 761 00:32:53,540 --> 00:32:54,540 Hey, hey, Chris. 762 00:32:54,540 --> 00:32:56,540 Well, Chris, I want you to hear this one. 763 00:32:56,540 --> 00:32:59,540 This is Jason and Grant. They're in Elizabeth's room, 764 00:32:59,540 --> 00:33:02,540 and they hear, they think they hear something. 765 00:33:02,540 --> 00:33:06,540 They say, hey, I heard this, and you hear a voice. 766 00:33:06,540 --> 00:33:09,540 See how much you hurt so we can help you? 767 00:33:09,540 --> 00:33:10,540 Yeah. 768 00:33:11,540 --> 00:33:12,540 Yeah. 769 00:33:18,540 --> 00:33:20,540 That was where the office was quarters? 770 00:33:20,540 --> 00:33:21,540 Office was quarters, yeah. 771 00:33:21,540 --> 00:33:22,540 I want to hear this. 772 00:33:23,540 --> 00:33:25,540 That she heard so we can help you. 773 00:33:27,540 --> 00:33:28,540 Yeah. 774 00:33:31,540 --> 00:33:33,540 Whoa. Yeah. 775 00:33:40,540 --> 00:33:43,540 Steve, Chris, this is in the dungeon. 776 00:33:43,540 --> 00:33:46,540 There's Jane Graham in the dungeon area, and you see all the cots, right? 777 00:33:46,540 --> 00:33:47,540 Right. 778 00:33:47,540 --> 00:33:49,540 Like, they're focusing on this... 779 00:33:49,540 --> 00:33:50,540 Sure. 780 00:33:50,540 --> 00:33:51,540 What's that thing? 781 00:33:51,540 --> 00:33:52,540 What? 782 00:33:52,540 --> 00:33:53,540 Right there. 783 00:33:53,540 --> 00:33:55,540 Oh, oh, where did that come from? 784 00:34:01,540 --> 00:34:02,540 How's it going? 785 00:34:02,540 --> 00:34:03,540 It's a Fort Mifflin, right? 786 00:34:03,540 --> 00:34:04,540 Crazy. 787 00:34:04,540 --> 00:34:05,540 Place was great. 788 00:34:05,540 --> 00:34:06,540 So what do we got first? 789 00:34:06,540 --> 00:34:09,540 Well, one of the first things we have here is that you guys had made mention to us 790 00:34:09,540 --> 00:34:13,540 that, hey, you know, there was a certain time when we thought we heard something, 791 00:34:13,540 --> 00:34:14,540 and we found that. 792 00:34:14,540 --> 00:34:15,540 We found that clip. 793 00:34:15,540 --> 00:34:16,540 You guys are saying you hear that. 794 00:34:16,540 --> 00:34:18,540 Can you hear that voice? 795 00:34:18,540 --> 00:34:20,540 Well, you heard it sound like mommy. 796 00:34:20,540 --> 00:34:21,540 Right. 797 00:34:21,540 --> 00:34:22,540 Right. 798 00:34:22,540 --> 00:34:23,540 That's exactly what we have here. 799 00:34:23,540 --> 00:34:24,540 You call it that? 800 00:34:24,540 --> 00:34:25,540 Yep. 801 00:34:25,540 --> 00:34:26,540 Go ahead, Dave. 802 00:34:26,540 --> 00:34:27,540 Yeah, Paulie. 803 00:34:27,540 --> 00:34:30,540 How much you hurt so we can help you? 804 00:34:30,540 --> 00:34:32,540 Yeah, it's not like that. 805 00:34:32,540 --> 00:34:33,540 Yeah. 806 00:34:34,540 --> 00:34:35,540 What? 807 00:34:35,540 --> 00:34:37,540 It does it twice. 808 00:34:37,540 --> 00:34:39,540 I only heard it the first time. 809 00:34:39,540 --> 00:34:41,540 That's exactly what I heard, so that's definitely a good catch. 810 00:34:41,540 --> 00:34:43,540 All right, so what's the next one we got? 811 00:34:43,540 --> 00:34:45,540 This one is you and Grant. 812 00:34:45,540 --> 00:34:47,540 You guys are in Casement 11. 813 00:34:47,540 --> 00:34:48,540 Okay. 814 00:34:48,540 --> 00:34:51,540 You'll be able to hear some sort of muttering back and forth. 815 00:34:51,540 --> 00:34:52,540 All right. 816 00:34:52,540 --> 00:34:54,540 Do it one more time? 817 00:34:54,540 --> 00:34:56,540 Do it one more time. 818 00:34:56,540 --> 00:34:58,540 Do it one more time. 819 00:34:58,540 --> 00:35:00,540 Do it one more time. 820 00:35:00,540 --> 00:35:03,540 Paulie, Paulie, Paulie, Paulie, Paulie. 821 00:35:03,540 --> 00:35:07,540 It sounds like the boys or the boss wants it deeper. 822 00:35:07,540 --> 00:35:11,540 Paulie, Paulie, Paulie, Paulie, Paulie, Paulie. 823 00:35:11,540 --> 00:35:14,540 Yeah, if you give it like a kind of a hillbilly accent, 824 00:35:14,540 --> 00:35:15,540 it's definitely saying something. 825 00:35:15,540 --> 00:35:18,540 And also, you know, we can show it to Wayne and, you know, 826 00:35:18,540 --> 00:35:19,540 he knows the place. 827 00:35:19,540 --> 00:35:21,540 Maybe it's something that'll sound familiar to him. 828 00:35:21,540 --> 00:35:23,540 All right, so what's this one? 829 00:35:23,540 --> 00:35:25,540 This is also in Casement 11. 830 00:35:25,540 --> 00:35:27,540 This is you and Grant as well. 831 00:35:27,540 --> 00:35:29,540 His name is all in there. 832 00:35:29,540 --> 00:35:31,660 That's nice! 833 00:35:31,660 --> 00:35:33,540 Calcation, Clifford. 834 00:35:33,540 --> 00:35:35,540 You called for him. 835 00:35:35,540 --> 00:35:37,540 I don't know his name. 836 00:35:37,540 --> 00:35:39,540 Maliki, I don't know his name. 837 00:35:39,540 --> 00:35:41,540 He doesn't know his name. 838 00:35:41,540 --> 00:35:43,540 We have your name and we can find out who you are 839 00:35:43,540 --> 00:35:46,540 and what you might need. 840 00:35:46,540 --> 00:35:48,540 Calcation, Clifford. 841 00:35:48,540 --> 00:35:50,540 Calcation, Clifford. 842 00:35:50,540 --> 00:35:51,540 Agent, this is your Operator. 843 00:35:51,540 --> 00:35:53,540 Agent, this is yourEC Griffrey. 844 00:35:53,540 --> 00:35:56,540 Can you callvis someone up to get some water, sir? 845 00:35:56,540 --> 00:35:58,180 And all of a sudden you see it. 846 00:35:58,180 --> 00:35:59,620 Stop it right there, Steve. 847 00:35:59,620 --> 00:36:01,740 That's a person's shape of a person. 848 00:36:01,740 --> 00:36:03,020 Well, what else is down there that's gonna get- 849 00:36:03,020 --> 00:36:03,860 Well, that's a stove. 850 00:36:03,860 --> 00:36:05,700 That's one of the brooms. 851 00:36:05,700 --> 00:36:09,300 That's the outline of a human figure right there. 852 00:36:09,300 --> 00:36:10,740 That's exactly what it is. 853 00:36:10,740 --> 00:36:11,940 And you know, another thing, 854 00:36:11,940 --> 00:36:15,260 it's not like there's any footprints of anybody walking in 855 00:36:15,260 --> 00:36:16,980 or anything else that's warmed up. 856 00:36:16,980 --> 00:36:18,580 So it's just, it's there. 857 00:36:18,580 --> 00:36:20,580 So we call it, we call it something unthermal. 858 00:36:20,580 --> 00:36:21,980 And it's pretty substantial 859 00:36:21,980 --> 00:36:24,260 because we've even got what appears to be warmth 860 00:36:24,260 --> 00:36:25,540 coming off of the stove. 861 00:36:25,540 --> 00:36:27,500 But we were down there, we didn't see anything. 862 00:36:27,500 --> 00:36:28,700 The heck is going on? 863 00:36:35,180 --> 00:36:36,500 Wait, it's good to see you again. 864 00:36:36,500 --> 00:36:37,340 Jason? 865 00:36:37,340 --> 00:36:38,340 All right, how you doing? 866 00:36:38,340 --> 00:36:39,180 Welcome back. 867 00:36:40,420 --> 00:36:41,260 Well, you know what we did? 868 00:36:41,260 --> 00:36:44,020 We came in, we listened to the claims of activity 869 00:36:44,020 --> 00:36:45,220 throughout the whole place. 870 00:36:45,220 --> 00:36:47,420 And from there, we ended up setting up all our equipment 871 00:36:47,420 --> 00:36:48,540 and starting an investigation. 872 00:36:48,540 --> 00:36:50,100 We ended up heading up to the second floor 873 00:36:50,100 --> 00:36:52,700 of the officer's quarters, Elizabeth's room. 874 00:36:52,700 --> 00:36:54,460 And we started doing an investigation, 875 00:36:54,460 --> 00:36:56,180 tried to make some sort of contact 876 00:36:56,180 --> 00:36:57,460 with whatever was up there. 877 00:36:57,460 --> 00:36:59,380 I'm moving on to the case made 11. 878 00:36:59,380 --> 00:37:00,660 Very interesting place. 879 00:37:00,660 --> 00:37:03,580 At one point, I kept on seeing what was appearing to be 880 00:37:03,580 --> 00:37:07,500 shadows walking by the light feeding outside. 881 00:37:07,500 --> 00:37:09,740 And then you'd hear what sounded like footsteps 882 00:37:09,740 --> 00:37:11,740 of somebody scuffing their feet on the ground 883 00:37:11,740 --> 00:37:14,100 as they were getting closer to you and closer to you. 884 00:37:14,100 --> 00:37:17,140 As this was going on, I was back in this vent shaft 885 00:37:17,140 --> 00:37:18,540 and kept getting the feeling 886 00:37:18,540 --> 00:37:19,940 that someone was standing right next to me. 887 00:37:19,940 --> 00:37:22,060 So he kept turning on my light and nothing was there. 888 00:37:22,060 --> 00:37:24,460 And after a little while, it got really, really cold. 889 00:37:24,460 --> 00:37:26,300 I had that little window in front of me 890 00:37:26,300 --> 00:37:28,100 and I turned on my flashlight 891 00:37:28,100 --> 00:37:30,020 and about dropped everything I had 892 00:37:30,020 --> 00:37:32,780 because I saw in the lower right corner of that 893 00:37:32,780 --> 00:37:36,100 a solid human face staring back at me. 894 00:37:36,100 --> 00:37:36,940 Wow. 895 00:37:36,940 --> 00:37:38,820 Yeah, but it wasn't the scary face. 896 00:37:38,820 --> 00:37:41,140 It was just the fact that there was a face there 897 00:37:41,140 --> 00:37:42,100 that shocked me. 898 00:37:42,100 --> 00:37:46,420 The face had some stubble and some dirty blonde hair. 899 00:37:46,420 --> 00:37:48,420 The shadow you saw in the tunnel? 900 00:37:48,420 --> 00:37:49,260 Yeah. 901 00:37:49,260 --> 00:37:53,300 That tunnel was Williams' house escape route. 902 00:37:53,300 --> 00:37:55,500 He is the one that broke through that window, 903 00:37:55,500 --> 00:37:58,060 came out the tunnel and was recaptured 904 00:37:58,060 --> 00:38:01,380 and they transferred him to Eastern State. 905 00:38:01,380 --> 00:38:02,220 Wow. 906 00:38:02,220 --> 00:38:03,660 Eastern State, little connection to the other place 907 00:38:03,660 --> 00:38:04,500 we invested in. 908 00:38:04,500 --> 00:38:05,620 Can't get away from that place. 909 00:38:05,620 --> 00:38:07,940 A few days later, brought him back 910 00:38:07,940 --> 00:38:10,020 and hung him right up there. 911 00:38:10,020 --> 00:38:12,620 Well, we caught a couple EVPs that we'd like you to listen to. 912 00:38:12,620 --> 00:38:13,460 Sure. 913 00:38:13,460 --> 00:38:15,300 I'm gonna get your thoughts on it. 914 00:38:15,740 --> 00:38:18,740 I'm gonna get your thoughts on it. 915 00:38:18,740 --> 00:38:20,980 I'm gonna get your thoughts on it. 916 00:38:20,980 --> 00:38:23,100 What it sounds like to us is, 917 00:38:23,100 --> 00:38:27,020 may I have some water or can I have some water? 918 00:38:27,020 --> 00:38:28,780 So it could be something like that. 919 00:38:28,780 --> 00:38:31,260 If it is saying, can I have some water, sir? 920 00:38:31,260 --> 00:38:34,460 What's interesting is that we heard those sounds, 921 00:38:34,460 --> 00:38:36,300 what sounded like rocks and stuff being moved 922 00:38:36,300 --> 00:38:38,940 and we asked our sound man if it was him 923 00:38:38,940 --> 00:38:40,620 and he didn't answer for a while 924 00:38:40,620 --> 00:38:42,980 because he was chugging down a bottle of water 925 00:38:42,980 --> 00:38:43,980 and finally answered. 926 00:38:43,980 --> 00:38:44,820 Yeah, so. 927 00:38:44,820 --> 00:38:45,660 Oh man. 928 00:38:46,820 --> 00:38:49,620 There's another EVP down there we'd like you to listen to. 929 00:38:49,620 --> 00:38:52,780 Again, in casemate 11, we were able to catch this one. 930 00:38:59,900 --> 00:39:01,180 That whispered Dan is Jay. 931 00:39:01,180 --> 00:39:03,460 The airso thick down here is stagnant, he says. 932 00:39:09,220 --> 00:39:11,660 When we put the headphones on and we listened really close, 933 00:39:11,700 --> 00:39:15,580 to me it sounds like the boss wants it deeper. 934 00:39:21,100 --> 00:39:24,420 Well, in 1861, those rooms were refurbished 935 00:39:24,420 --> 00:39:26,180 for solitary confinement. 936 00:39:26,180 --> 00:39:29,100 And I know for a fact that the floor in the first room 937 00:39:29,100 --> 00:39:30,620 is over a foot thick. 938 00:39:30,620 --> 00:39:32,980 So what they have to do, dig down more. 939 00:39:32,980 --> 00:39:36,860 They dug down deeper and then filled in with rubble 940 00:39:36,860 --> 00:39:40,540 and poured concrete cement in on top of that. 941 00:39:40,540 --> 00:39:41,380 That's pretty cool. 942 00:39:41,380 --> 00:39:42,980 We do have one thing that we'd like you to listen to 943 00:39:42,980 --> 00:39:46,020 that we were able to catch up on the second floor of that house. 944 00:39:46,020 --> 00:39:47,540 I'd be very interested in that. 945 00:39:47,540 --> 00:39:51,020 How much you hurt so we can help you. 946 00:39:53,260 --> 00:39:54,100 Yeah. 947 00:39:58,580 --> 00:39:59,420 Mommy. 948 00:40:03,260 --> 00:40:04,620 That is very, very. 949 00:40:05,500 --> 00:40:07,460 Well, I've never liked that room anyway. 950 00:40:07,460 --> 00:40:09,780 Now the next place we checked out was the dungeon. 951 00:40:09,780 --> 00:40:12,820 We were able to catch two things on thermal imaging camera 952 00:40:12,820 --> 00:40:14,140 that we'd like to show you. 953 00:40:16,020 --> 00:40:16,860 Wow. 954 00:40:22,580 --> 00:40:25,620 We were able to catch two things on thermal imaging camera 955 00:40:25,620 --> 00:40:26,860 that we'd like to show you. 956 00:40:26,860 --> 00:40:28,900 And just get your impression on, okay? 957 00:40:28,900 --> 00:40:29,740 Yeah. 958 00:40:29,740 --> 00:40:32,140 What you're gonna be seeing at first is Grant and I 959 00:40:32,140 --> 00:40:34,500 walked to the very far end of the tunnel 960 00:40:34,500 --> 00:40:36,060 where all the cots are. 961 00:40:36,060 --> 00:40:37,780 Yes, the very last tunnel. 962 00:40:37,780 --> 00:40:39,900 Now that there on the cot, 963 00:40:39,900 --> 00:40:41,180 not really sure on the shape, 964 00:40:41,180 --> 00:40:44,140 but it's a lot hotter than everything else around it. 965 00:40:44,140 --> 00:40:44,980 Wow. 966 00:40:44,980 --> 00:40:47,260 Now it looks like if someone had been sitting there, 967 00:40:47,260 --> 00:40:50,060 maybe one leg was touching the side of the cot, 968 00:40:50,060 --> 00:40:51,820 maybe a hand back in the corner. 969 00:40:51,820 --> 00:40:54,980 But this next piece is what surprised us pretty good. 970 00:40:54,980 --> 00:40:57,500 In the next part, we were walking through the hallway 971 00:40:57,500 --> 00:40:59,700 and just shining the thermal imaging camera 972 00:40:59,700 --> 00:41:01,860 into the other casemates. 973 00:41:01,860 --> 00:41:02,700 Right. 974 00:41:02,700 --> 00:41:05,300 And obviously there's nothing in there but a stove. 975 00:41:05,300 --> 00:41:06,220 Wow. 976 00:41:06,220 --> 00:41:07,540 Yeah, that's what we said. 977 00:41:07,540 --> 00:41:09,340 This is a human shape form. 978 00:41:09,340 --> 00:41:12,740 It looks like a person, but the stoves admitting heat. 979 00:41:12,740 --> 00:41:15,260 And how long has it been since those stoves were ever used? 980 00:41:15,260 --> 00:41:16,100 Long time. 981 00:41:16,100 --> 00:41:16,940 You can't say that. 982 00:41:16,940 --> 00:41:17,780 I don't know. 983 00:41:17,780 --> 00:41:19,460 Looks like probably near a hundred years. 984 00:41:19,460 --> 00:41:20,420 Yes. 985 00:41:20,420 --> 00:41:22,100 It appears as somebody's near a stove 986 00:41:22,100 --> 00:41:24,220 and something warm is on the stove. 987 00:41:24,220 --> 00:41:25,060 Weird. 988 00:41:25,060 --> 00:41:25,900 All right. 989 00:41:25,900 --> 00:41:27,940 We've got one more piece of evidence we'd like to show you. 990 00:41:27,940 --> 00:41:30,740 And it was cut down in casement 11. 991 00:41:30,740 --> 00:41:32,660 This is the doorway leading into the casemate. 992 00:41:32,660 --> 00:41:35,860 Right on the other side of this is that little cutty 993 00:41:35,860 --> 00:41:38,980 that you just filled us in on that William actually 994 00:41:38,980 --> 00:41:40,540 escaped out into. 995 00:41:40,540 --> 00:41:41,380 Now watch. 996 00:41:41,380 --> 00:41:42,940 That green coming out. 997 00:41:42,940 --> 00:41:43,860 Now look at it. 998 00:41:43,860 --> 00:41:45,500 It's there on its own. 999 00:41:45,500 --> 00:41:47,260 It actually heads down. 1000 00:41:47,260 --> 00:41:48,740 But now watch what happens. 1001 00:41:50,660 --> 00:41:53,380 Now it's heading back and then disappears. 1002 00:41:53,380 --> 00:41:54,220 Wow. 1003 00:41:54,220 --> 00:41:57,380 So we have no clue what that is or even what kind of form it is. 1004 00:41:57,380 --> 00:41:58,940 This is just picking up heat. 1005 00:41:59,860 --> 00:42:01,580 It has based on all of this. 1006 00:42:01,580 --> 00:42:03,620 Do y'all have the impression that Fort Muffin 1007 00:42:03,620 --> 00:42:05,140 is actually haunted? 1008 00:42:05,580 --> 00:42:08,340 I definitely, I think that there's a residual type 1009 00:42:08,340 --> 00:42:09,420 haunt with most of this. 1010 00:42:09,420 --> 00:42:11,580 It almost seems like the place is haunted 1011 00:42:11,580 --> 00:42:13,300 with the memories of the past. 1012 00:42:13,300 --> 00:42:15,100 There's been a lot of past here. 1013 00:42:15,100 --> 00:42:17,340 The difference between a residual and intelligent haunting 1014 00:42:17,340 --> 00:42:19,020 is that in an intelligent haunting, 1015 00:42:19,020 --> 00:42:21,860 you have the spirit of a deceased person. 1016 00:42:21,860 --> 00:42:24,060 It's got desires, motivations. 1017 00:42:24,060 --> 00:42:26,180 This type of haunting can interact with you. 1018 00:42:26,180 --> 00:42:27,500 In fact, that's the whole point. 1019 00:42:27,500 --> 00:42:28,900 It's trying to get you to help it 1020 00:42:28,900 --> 00:42:30,860 or it's getting a kick out of scaring you. 1021 00:42:30,860 --> 00:42:33,460 In a residual haunting, it is just the memory of a person 1022 00:42:33,460 --> 00:42:34,860 that has been imprinted in an area 1023 00:42:34,860 --> 00:42:36,820 that just repeats itself over and over again. 1024 00:42:36,820 --> 00:42:38,420 It has no idea you're there. 1025 00:42:38,420 --> 00:42:40,260 It's like a tape recorder playing back and forth. 1026 00:42:40,260 --> 00:42:41,460 It doesn't carry you there. 1027 00:42:41,460 --> 00:42:42,940 It'll happen if you're there or not. 1028 00:42:42,940 --> 00:42:45,460 In that regard, it can't hurt you at all. 1029 00:42:45,460 --> 00:42:47,660 Well, we want to say thank you very much for having us out. 1030 00:42:47,660 --> 00:42:49,740 You're always welcome, Fort Muffin. 1031 00:42:49,740 --> 00:42:51,220 Thank you very much, Wayne. 1032 00:42:51,220 --> 00:42:52,300 Thanks, Wayne. 1033 00:42:52,300 --> 00:42:53,140 Let's get out of here. 1034 00:42:53,140 --> 00:42:53,980 Let's get out of here. 1035 00:42:53,980 --> 00:42:54,820 All right. 1036 00:42:56,500 --> 00:42:59,260 I've always had a feeling that Fort Muffin was haunted, 1037 00:42:59,260 --> 00:43:01,500 but to see the actual evidence of it 1038 00:43:01,500 --> 00:43:03,460 and hear the actual voices, 1039 00:43:03,460 --> 00:43:06,460 it just confirms it and expands it so much 1040 00:43:06,460 --> 00:43:08,500 that it's amazing. 1041 00:43:08,500 --> 00:43:12,140 I want to give taps my full thanks and appreciation 1042 00:43:12,140 --> 00:43:15,340 for the excellent job they have done here at Fort Muffin. 1043 00:43:15,340 --> 00:43:18,020 I don't feel there's anything negative there by any means. 1044 00:43:18,020 --> 00:43:19,660 No, and I stared right in the face. 1045 00:43:19,660 --> 00:43:21,620 I mean, I got surprised, but I didn't get the feeling 1046 00:43:21,620 --> 00:43:22,620 that it was gonna hurt me. 1047 00:43:22,620 --> 00:43:24,620 Yeah, I do believe that place to be haunted, 1048 00:43:24,620 --> 00:43:26,500 and I feel totally comfortable saying that. 1049 00:43:26,500 --> 00:43:28,860 So, yeah, it was definitely a great experience, man. 1050 00:43:28,860 --> 00:43:30,580 Yeah, I can't thank Fort Muffin enough 1051 00:43:30,580 --> 00:43:32,180 for giving me the shock of the year. 1052 00:43:32,180 --> 00:43:33,220 Onto the next one.